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"Flat Earth" Christianity - Apostacy?

posted Jul 20, 2013, 7:06 AM by David Gerhart   [ updated Jul 20, 2013, 8:55 AM ]

As used in this post the term "Flat Earth**" refers to science deniers who make all sorts of claims.  Heard recently  "The orbit of the moon is circular, the moon is receeding so fast that it couldn't have been there for all the time science tells us... God accomplished his creation in six days 6,000 years ago.  The universe isn't 13.8 billion years wide."  

God is a God truth and reason.  

"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

Science can not, therefore, contradict scripture.  And this is huge: Because creation testifies to God.  

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:18-20

That there are gaps in understanding, is WHY Science moves ahead.

“Come now, let us settle the matter,”  says the Lord. “Though your sins are like scarlet,  they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the good things of the land; but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured by the sword.” For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. Isaiah 1:18-20

It's disressing to hear a brother in a very condescending self-righteous tone -- assert that Science is but one part of a broad conspiracy to lead people into faithless atheism.  After the meeting he got in his car, turned the key and drove away.  Evidently his faith in science only applies when it's convenient to him.

Here's the problem with Flat-Earth Christianity -- "They" -- those deniers of inconvenient fact -- are victims of the same dark-ages broken thinking and delusional religious lies that resisted the Renissance, Reformation thinkers and the Ages of Enlightenment and of Discovery.  

Haven't we seen this before?  Does the addage apply?  "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Peter 2:2

These are those who would twist facts, engage a pseudo-science (false science) to defeat truth.

But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

A central proposition in typical Flat-Earth exposition is that one either believes in the 6 day creation, or one is a heritic.  Either/ or.

I was senseless and ignorant; I was a brute beast before you. Yet I am always with you; you hold me by my right hand. You guide me with your counsel, and afterward you will take me into glory Psalms 73:22-24

The FACT is -- connecting the dots eludes us.  There is an explanation for why we don't yet understand creation science according to the Scripture.  But I have faith that both are true.  It cannot be that the God of the mind, a rational, thinking being uses abstract magic.

God made creation in 6 days, yes -- I believe.  That he began 13.8 years ago is the best estimate, seems true as well.  I accept both, but explain neither.

For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.2Peter 1:16 

The majesty of Christ is that he can create in 6 days what seems to us to have taken 13.8 billion years.  The majesty of Christ is in his grace; that he accepts me even if I don't understand.  The Majesty of Christ is that Creation is.  I can have faith in the conjuctive -- that instead of being this or that, the Majesty of Christ is that the unverses' creator made us this AND that.

** Seriously?!  I wonder is it a hoax?  But FYI, there are folks who think the earth is flat. Visit this link offsite to read "three experiments to prove the earth is flat."

Mouse in the Cookie Jar

posted Oct 15, 2012, 11:38 AM by David Gerhart

"Just because the mouse lives in the cookie jar, it does not make him a cookie." Papa Ten Boom.  Comment regarding a less-than-willing pastor on the question of hiding Jews during the Holocaust in Holland.  The movie "The Hiding Place" was sponsored by the Billy Graham Ministries in the early 1970's.

On the questions we face as believers, it is always a matter of personal revelation.  Doctrines are important.  A certain very few count as definitions of Faith and they come from scripture -- overtly.  

Allistair Begg says it thus: "The main things are the plain things, and the plain things the main things."

"God sent his only begotten Son ... " John 3:16.  The Apostle here records the words of Jesus regarding the requirements for eternal life.  This is an example of a doctrine all Christians accept.

Others, for instance on the "timing" of Jesus' second coming -- are less evident.  That he is coming is NOT in question.  That we should be surprised, is not in question.  But as to when, relative to other prophesies ... becomes an interpretive exercise. 

Interpretive efforts are all based on the wisdom of men.  Hermeneutics being the educational equivalent in Theology as Number Theory is to Mathematics.

Do we think God understands Mathematics like Men?   In fact His creation includes the very numbering structures we DERIVE our understanding from.   And so it is with Scripture.

Whilst a commonality of understanding is "church" goal, we should never abdicate our "Berean" responsibility to seek to see if what we hear from our leaders is true.  This applies most especially to spiritual matters, as it is critical to our salvation that we have a personal an private relationship with Jesus.

But this also applies to secular realms.  One aspect of Church intersection in the World is particularly unseemly and taken on behalf of politics.

We see in the picture of the "Mouse in the Cookie Jar" wisdom that says we should be careful that we aren't deceived by the robes our "betters" may be wearing.  Theirs is a particularly susceptible position because defending ones place against circumstances is an innate human trait.   

But God would have us disposes ourselves, even of Political aspiration, in favor of prayer and efforts in furtherance of His Kingdom -- which is to say restricting our worldly interest to the Great Commission.   And this command to ministry, first and most importantly -- includes our homes and schools and towns.   Where we witness, and minister and pray as opposed to protest, lobby and vote.

Best & Rest

posted Jul 5, 2012, 9:53 AM by David Gerhart   [ updated Jul 5, 2012, 9:55 AM ]

"I do my best.  God does the rest."   Hattie McDaniel  (actress, "Mammy" in "Gone with the Wind") 

If control were possible through willful exertion, some would never experience pain.  There would never be a disappointment.

As contrasting alternatives go, it's startling:  Do the best at what I can and then "Rest" in the Lord.  versus Doing my best, going further, striving to perfection and then worrying, being annoyed, anticipating bitterness when I don't receive what I want.

"Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life." Mat. 6:27

This simple scripture is typical of Jesus.  Extraordinary power in the simplest of thoughts.  The answer to the question is quite powerfully life-changing.  I do what I can.  Trust the rest to Him.  The affect is to open a pathway to contentment and all of the other blessings possible in an experience of the Kingdom of God on earth.  

"... my yoke is easy, my burden light"  Mat. 11:30

"Assmosis"

posted Jun 7, 2012, 11:40 AM by David Gerhart   [ updated Jun 7, 2012, 1:30 PM ]

This came up in Wednesday services after listening to Dave Herrold speak (BCF.)

In AA / AlAnon, we used to say there is no such thing as Assmosis -- to sit in the chair did not convey results.  "It works if you work it." was the theme.

Scripture says it's not by our work, we can't earn our way into favor with God.

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--"  Eph 2:8

With Gods Word, though -- Assmosis does work.  Gods Word is alive and active.  No one can tell when or where it will catch is another's life.  Sitting in Church, sometimes for years -- it all finally adds up.  Usually there's a crisis involved, most prayers of repentance are made from a foxhole.  But at least James McDonnald agrees.  Sitting there, "Week after week, month after month, and seasons pass..."

It's not like sleeping on a bible for a pillow can help, but going to services definitely can.  Grace is a gift.  And sometimes it just catches up with us.

Can't miss!

posted May 31, 2012, 8:13 AM by David Gerhart   [ updated Jun 7, 2012, 11:35 AM ]

Alistair Begg discussing the story of David & Goliath (1 Sam 17) the characterization of the armies of Israel is true that they were afraid.  Goliath may have been as much a 9'6'' tall!  "He's so big, who can defeat him."  And so the stalemate continued.  Until David arrived, and inverted the attitude to "He's so big, who can miss?!"  Funny, and sort of true.  

But David wasn't brave, he was fully convinced of the might of the God he served.  And he was incensed that the Name of God was being defamed by the heathen Philistines.  More on the subject in the Daily Flip here.



In or Out?

posted May 31, 2012, 7:48 AM by David Gerhart

'Doing good wont' get you in.  Being bad won't keep you out.'  

Eph. 2:8 "By grace we are saved, through faith (in Jesus Christ)..."

Thank God!  Earning our way isn't part of the bargain.  And I can't fail so much as to be disqualified.  I do, however need to keep getting up, dusting off and restarting my walk.

Mt. 7:14 "But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."

It follows then, that most will fail the ultimate question -- faith?   In whom and in what does one believe?!

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